Comments on: Music is the First Thing to Get Cut http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/ Observations from the Other Side of the Lens Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:13:05 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Alhambra High School Tri - M Music Honor Society Chapter 3611 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-2018 Alhambra High School Tri - M Music Honor Society Chapter 3611 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:34:26 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-2018 Are you serious? all forms of music is important, if we let them cut one, eventually they would cut the others. Are you in a performing arts group? I think not. If you're a musician at all you would know that we need Choir, Band, AND Orchestra. Even if one is cheaper than one another, it doesnt matter! banging rocks together was cheaper than playing a piano, yet Mozart composed wonderful music with a piano. Why would we deprive students of playing violin, cello, viola, etc... simply because [to you] its worthless out of the other music groups and is the most expensive. Most students can't afford private music lessons as well. I'm now the President of the Tri - M Music Honor Society Chapter 3611 and I work hard, along with the music teachers, to protect and advocate the music program here. so don't say we dont really need an Orchestra! We need the entire music program and the school districts are jerks for always wanting to cut it! Are you serious?
all forms of music is important, if we let them cut one, eventually they would cut the others. Are you in a performing arts group? I think not. If you’re a musician at all you would know that we need Choir, Band, AND Orchestra. Even if one is cheaper than one another, it doesnt matter! banging rocks together was cheaper than playing a piano, yet Mozart composed wonderful music with a piano.
Why would we deprive students of playing violin, cello, viola, etc… simply because [to you] its worthless out of the other music groups and is the most expensive. Most students can’t afford private music lessons as well.
I’m now the President of the Tri – M Music Honor Society Chapter 3611 and I work hard, along with the music teachers, to protect and advocate the music program here.
so don’t say we dont really need an Orchestra! We need the entire music program and the school districts are jerks for always wanting to cut it!

]]> By: wow http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-2013 wow Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:27:31 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-2013 I'm shocked that someone would suggest that orchestra is less important than the other forms of art. Tell Yo-Yo Ma that you want to cut string programs, and let me know how that goes. You shouldn't have bands and choir solely for public exhibition. It should be for the students learning and development, and string education can provide many things to a student that other forms of education can not. String education provides so many outlets for learning. There are so many styles and different cultures one can learn about by playing a string instrument. It is ignorant of you to say that choir directors know more about general music, when all music educators are certified to teach any form of music to any grade. "Orchestra Conductors" learn the same things as the "choir directors" in a sense of general music. Also, the only reason that students aren't "set" on playing string instruments is because they don't get the exposure to them that they should be getting from a very young age....our public school's failures. You're also ignorant for saying that poor kids have to be in choir. Does this mean that rich kids can't be in choir? That 'Poor" kids can't play an instruments? That is the most ridiculous, uneducated thing anyone could say about music education. I’m shocked that someone would suggest that orchestra is less important than the other forms of art. Tell Yo-Yo Ma that you want to cut string programs, and let me know how that goes. You shouldn’t have bands and choir solely for public exhibition. It should be for the students learning and development, and string education can provide many things to a student that other forms of education can not. String education provides so many outlets for learning. There are so many styles and different cultures one can learn about by playing a string instrument.
It is ignorant of you to say that choir directors know more about general music, when all music educators are certified to teach any form of music to any grade. “Orchestra Conductors” learn the same things as the “choir directors” in a sense of general music.
Also, the only reason that students aren’t “set” on playing string instruments is because they don’t get the exposure to them that they should be getting from a very young age….our public school’s failures.
You’re also ignorant for saying that poor kids have to be in choir. Does this mean that rich kids can’t be in choir? That ‘Poor” kids can’t play an instruments? That is the most ridiculous, uneducated thing anyone could say about music education.

]]> By: Silly People http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-2011 Silly People Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:34:44 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-2011 Music doesn't need to be cut completely. Having a chorus for the poor students and band for those able to afford instruments is good. If you have to cut something, cut orchestra. Bands typically play at graduation and football games. Choir is the least expensive of the programs and the choir director typically has the best knowledge of general music (for the students not in ensembles). Those few students actually set on playing a string instrument can find their means through Suzuki method teachers or regular private teachers. It is similar for other places. You need to simply take a little bit out of various areas rather than narrowing your view to one particular area. Do we need music? Yes. Do we need Choir, Band AND Orchestra? Not at all. Music doesn’t need to be cut completely. Having a chorus for the poor students and band for those able to afford instruments is good. If you have to cut something, cut orchestra. Bands typically play at graduation and football games. Choir is the least expensive of the programs and the choir director typically has the best knowledge of general music (for the students not in ensembles). Those few students actually set on playing a string instrument can find their means through Suzuki method teachers or regular private teachers.

It is similar for other places. You need to simply take a little bit out of various areas rather than narrowing your view to one particular area. Do we need music? Yes. Do we need Choir, Band AND Orchestra? Not at all.

]]> By: eyeingtenure http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-422 eyeingtenure Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:30:32 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-422 We never had a visual arts program at my high school, I don't think. We do have photography, but only at the high school level. It's safe for now. We never had a visual arts program at my high school, I don’t think.

We do have photography, but only at the high school level. It’s safe for now.

]]> By: JAFY http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-410 JAFY Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:19:41 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-410 music is often the second thing to go right after they axe visual arts; that is assuming a school ever had it in the first place most of the schools in our state don't. Oddly enough some schools which offer no visual arts special offer two or three music specials per grade level...I guess it just depends on where you live music is often the second thing to go right after they axe visual arts; that is assuming a school ever had it in the first place most of the schools in our state don’t. Oddly enough some schools which offer no visual arts special offer two or three music specials per grade level…I guess it just depends on where you live

]]> By: eyeingtenure http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-368 eyeingtenure Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:12:20 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-368 They're always dying. There are always some coming back to life, too. There are always some flourishing. It's a vicious cycle. They’re always dying. There are always some coming back to life, too. There are always some flourishing. It’s a vicious cycle.

]]> By: Katie http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-367 Katie Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:47:35 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-367 I think that it is ridiculous that music is always the first program to be cut. I believe it to be the most important and beneficial to schools. I've been in band since 4th grade and I'm now a senior in High School, and it is so sad to see music programs dying... I think that it is ridiculous that music is always the first program to be cut. I believe it to be the most important and beneficial to schools. I’ve been in band since 4th grade and I’m now a senior in High School, and it is so sad to see music programs dying…

]]> By: eyeingtenure http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-343 eyeingtenure Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:38:06 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-343 Music is an integral part of any serious education. It also happens to be my favorite part of any serious education, but that's neither here nor there. Music is an integral part of any serious education. It also happens to be my favorite part of any serious education, but that’s neither here nor there.

]]> By: JT http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-342 JT Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:50:25 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-342 Not to denigrate the importance of other school subjects, but music is the one that has stuck with me long after graduation. I can't remember the last time I calculated the circumference of a right-angled trapezoid (yes, I know those don't go together...I'm making a point). Yet, I listen to music every day, and sing along (rather poorly) with my favorite songs on the radio, and even try to pluck out a few on my guitar. When music is cut, the love for that part of our culture is diminished. Math, science, and even English are very important, and of course must be kept (though I'm not sure how dissecting that frog in 10th grade really helped me all these years later), but music must be included in with those subjects as well as a keeper. Not to denigrate the importance of other school subjects, but music is the one that has stuck with me long after graduation. I can’t remember the last time I calculated the circumference of a right-angled trapezoid (yes, I know those don’t go together…I’m making a point). Yet, I listen to music every day, and sing along (rather poorly) with my favorite songs on the radio, and even try to pluck out a few on my guitar. When music is cut, the love for that part of our culture is diminished. Math, science, and even English are very important, and of course must be kept (though I’m not sure how dissecting that frog in 10th grade really helped me all these years later), but music must be included in with those subjects as well as a keeper.

]]> By: eyeingtenure http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/music-is-the-first-thing-to-get-cut/#comment-341 eyeingtenure Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:30:25 +0000 http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-341 The success of music programs is directly related to the success of their feeder programs. Cut off the feeder programs, and you'll never keep that championship band. The success of music programs is directly related to the success of their feeder programs. Cut off the feeder programs, and you’ll never keep that championship band.

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