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	<title>Comments on: Apocalyptic Undertones and This Blog</title>
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		<title>By: In trouble for purposeful reflection &#124; Sustainably Digital</title>
		<link>http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/apocalyptic-undertones-and-this-blog/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>In trouble for purposeful reflection &#124; Sustainably Digital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The blog is anonymous to protect the innocent, though the confronting teacher noted he could recognize people mentioned in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: On Opening Up To New Ideas &#171; On the Tenure Track</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Opening Up To New Ideas &#171; On the Tenure Track</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] break from hammering on the importance of openness and trust within a department to consider again that teacher I outed, anonymously, as believing in the bullshitness of BTSA. Nobody likes [...]</description>
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		<title>By: We Know You&#8217;re Blogging &#171; On the Tenure Track</title>
		<link>http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/apocalyptic-undertones-and-this-blog/#comment-1049</link>
		<dc:creator>We Know You&#8217;re Blogging &#171; On the Tenure Track</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More tomorrow. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)No One Ever Tells a Doctor How to Do His/Her Job…Several “Bizarre” ProposalsFall, 2006    31 Replies [...]</description>
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		<title>By: eyeingtenure</title>
		<link>http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/apocalyptic-undertones-and-this-blog/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeingtenure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ms. Olson:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks; I&#039;ll read it.

&lt;b&gt;Ms. Jae:&lt;/b&gt; As a fan of confrontation, I would say it to their face. Were I a cussing man. 

I don&#039;t think he had an issue with my sentiment --- there was none --- and I don&#039;t think he had an issue with how I quoted him, either. Specifically, he asked that I remove a few descriptions of the status of his career. I did, and for the right reasons.

Now, he told it to me to begin with, and I didn&#039;t misrepresent or criticize his assessment of BTSA. This was all a matter of mistaken identity --- intentifying him, rather than nobody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ms. Olson:</b> Thanks; I&#8217;ll read it.</p>
<p><b>Ms. Jae:</b> As a fan of confrontation, I would say it to their face. Were I a cussing man. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he had an issue with my sentiment &#8212; there was none &#8212; and I don&#8217;t think he had an issue with how I quoted him, either. Specifically, he asked that I remove a few descriptions of the status of his career. I did, and for the right reasons.</p>
<p>Now, he told it to me to begin with, and I didn&#8217;t misrepresent or criticize his assessment of BTSA. This was all a matter of mistaken identity &#8212; intentifying him, rather than nobody.</p>
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		<title>By: everydayjae</title>
		<link>http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/apocalyptic-undertones-and-this-blog/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>everydayjae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s not about a distant “third party” finding out about what is being written on your blog, it is about the people next to you–would you say it to their face.&quot;

Again, I think I tend to agree. You might think you would say it, but how would the manner in which you say it change if there were eyes staring back at you, rather than a computer screen with more anonymous words for feedback?

I remember reading Kate&#039;s posts in January. I&#039;m interested to know how you handle the situation. I am kind of at a crossroads myself--do I even start on this road?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s not about a distant “third party” finding out about what is being written on your blog, it is about the people next to you–would you say it to their face.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, I think I tend to agree. You might think you would say it, but how would the manner in which you say it change if there were eyes staring back at you, rather than a computer screen with more anonymous words for feedback?</p>
<p>I remember reading Kate&#8217;s posts in January. I&#8217;m interested to know how you handle the situation. I am kind of at a crossroads myself&#8211;do I even start on this road?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Olson</title>
		<link>http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/apocalyptic-undertones-and-this-blog/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, take this for what it&#039;s worth, but I blogged about this back in January when I was trying to decided whether to blog anonymously or under my real name - I chose my real name, by the way. I&#039;d seriously recommend reading the book &quot;A Blogger&#039;s Manifesto&quot; by Erik Ringmar. Here&#039;s where I posted about it - http://www.katesays.org/2008/01/29/im-not-anonymous/

Good luck with this situation, it&#039;s a tough one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, take this for what it&#8217;s worth, but I blogged about this back in January when I was trying to decided whether to blog anonymously or under my real name &#8211; I chose my real name, by the way. I&#8217;d seriously recommend reading the book &#8220;A Blogger&#8217;s Manifesto&#8221; by Erik Ringmar. Here&#8217;s where I posted about it &#8211; <a href="http://www.katesays.org/2008/01/29/im-not-anonymous/" rel="nofollow">http://www.katesays.org/2008/01/29/im-not-anonymous/</a></p>
<p>Good luck with this situation, it&#8217;s a tough one.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeingtenure</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyeingtenure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Mr. Jones:&lt;/b&gt; It&#039;s more than that.

&lt;b&gt;Mr. Bogush:&lt;/b&gt; I didn&#039;t consider any of what I wrote offensive, and, given what I know of our principal, I don&#039;t think he&#039;d disagree.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Changing what you wrote or deciding not to write something should not be out of “self-preservation,” but out of respect for the other folks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was out of respect --- &quot;self preservation&quot; is idiom.

Note, also: On the blog entry in question, I didn&#039;t insult or mischaracterize or demean the staff member in question. It most certainly wasn&#039;t libelous, either. I simply quoted him on a common sentiment, a sentiment shared by, apparently, every staff member at my school.

Now, while I would say to the face of every teacher at my school exactly what I write on this blog, I&#039;m not going to tempt fate by making them accessible to administrators, daily. I&#039;m not on-staff, there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Mr. Jones:</b> It&#8217;s more than that.</p>
<p><b>Mr. Bogush:</b> I didn&#8217;t consider any of what I wrote offensive, and, given what I know of our principal, I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d disagree.</p>
<blockquote><p>Changing what you wrote or deciding not to write something should not be out of “self-preservation,” but out of respect for the other folks.</p></blockquote>
<p>It was out of respect &#8212; &#8220;self preservation&#8221; is idiom.</p>
<p>Note, also: On the blog entry in question, I didn&#8217;t insult or mischaracterize or demean the staff member in question. It most certainly wasn&#8217;t libelous, either. I simply quoted him on a common sentiment, a sentiment shared by, apparently, every staff member at my school.</p>
<p>Now, while I would say to the face of every teacher at my school exactly what I write on this blog, I&#8217;m not going to tempt fate by making them accessible to administrators, daily. I&#8217;m not on-staff, there.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Bogush</title>
		<link>http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/apocalyptic-undertones-and-this-blog/#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bogush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a second...stop and look at your blogging about them through their eyes and how they feel about it and why they feel the way they do.  Not how you think they should view this, but how they actually do.  Then ask yourself if you care about what they think.  Then decide what to write next.  

I stick around here because I notice a lot of similarities between what you are writing and what I used to think.  Before blogs, I used to publish an anonymous satirical newsletter at my school about staff members.  At the time I could not understand the reaction -- it made no sense at all to me.  Today I see it as one of the most regrettable short sighted things I ever did.  Not that the newsletter and your blog are the same, but when I was publishing it I only saw it through my eyes, not through the eyes of the people that were offended by it--people I cared about.  

Changing what you wrote or deciding not to write something should not be out of &quot;self-preservation,&quot;  but out of respect for the other folks.  

It&#039;s not about a distant &quot;third party&quot; finding out about what is being written on your blog, it is about the people next to you--would you say it to their face.  Would you have a conversation with someone and then turn to another person and repeat the conversation with the first person right there. It is not about what you are saying, but how you are saying it.  I really do not think that it has anything to do with the age of the teachers or any kind of anti-blogging sentiment.  

Final test -- If you don&#039;t have a problem with what you are writing print the last four posts and leave them on the staff lounge tables.  

You sick of me yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a second&#8230;stop and look at your blogging about them through their eyes and how they feel about it and why they feel the way they do.  Not how you think they should view this, but how they actually do.  Then ask yourself if you care about what they think.  Then decide what to write next.  </p>
<p>I stick around here because I notice a lot of similarities between what you are writing and what I used to think.  Before blogs, I used to publish an anonymous satirical newsletter at my school about staff members.  At the time I could not understand the reaction &#8212; it made no sense at all to me.  Today I see it as one of the most regrettable short sighted things I ever did.  Not that the newsletter and your blog are the same, but when I was publishing it I only saw it through my eyes, not through the eyes of the people that were offended by it&#8211;people I cared about.  </p>
<p>Changing what you wrote or deciding not to write something should not be out of &#8220;self-preservation,&#8221;  but out of respect for the other folks.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about a distant &#8220;third party&#8221; finding out about what is being written on your blog, it is about the people next to you&#8211;would you say it to their face.  Would you have a conversation with someone and then turn to another person and repeat the conversation with the first person right there. It is not about what you are saying, but how you are saying it.  I really do not think that it has anything to do with the age of the teachers or any kind of anti-blogging sentiment.  </p>
<p>Final test &#8212; If you don&#8217;t have a problem with what you are writing print the last four posts and leave them on the staff lounge tables.  </p>
<p>You sick of me yet?</p>
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		<title>By: jethro</title>
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		<dc:creator>jethro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to hear more about it. Good luck. Maybe they are only mad because you are such a good writer and do such a good job making the posts interesting and worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to hear more about it. Good luck. Maybe they are only mad because you are such a good writer and do such a good job making the posts interesting and worthwhile.</p>
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